I understand how you feel, and wish you the best.
cha ching
JoinedPosts by cha ching
-
40
Getting Stuck on the Idea of Closure
by OnTheWayOut ini may be suffering twice for having left the jehovah's witnesses and watching my jw wife and other family members stay in.
once for the changed situation (or loss) and another time for expecting to make progress in getting over it.. the 1969 book on death and dying by elisabeth kubler-ross introduced us to the kubler-ross model , commonly referred to as the " five stages of grief.
" they are very helpful, but the original idea of the book and the hypothesis was that when a person is faced with the reality of impending death , he or she will experience a series of emotional stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.. it isn't always the case, but those stages are often felt by terminally ill patients.
-
-
-
30
This weekends WT. Are they passing the plate?
by 70wksfyrs inthe august 15 2013 wt is being studied this weekend.
in my view its begging for money.. paragraph 9 and 10 state.
support theocratic arrangements9.
-
-
cha ching
Yep, I hope it becomes more and more obvious to those still in..
cha ching, cha ching, you ain't gettin' my bling!
-
231
NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT
by clarity in# 3 newbie post.
first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.
have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
-
-
cha ching
Then there is me, Cha Ching!
Joined March of this year.
I am happy to see that others are able to see the hypocrisy of the WTBS
that I and my fam' did....
607 and overlapping generations was the beginning, and the "here's how
you can donate more and more and more" was definitely a show of
their greedy little hands! Life is much more happy now!
-
83
WATCHTOWER IN A PANIC!
by JW GoneBad injws are in need of more kingdom halls in many major u.s. cities.
at this years agm where it is expected that most of the faithful will be able to listen to the meeting (being tied in by video), dont be surprised if the wts 8 gb members take part in a symposium delivering some long winded appeal, petition, plea, proposal, proposition, solicitation or otherwise hit-on the masses for $$$ in order to lighten the burden and overuse that many kingdom halls are experiencing.
an acquaintance from the west coast mentioned to me that in late august thru early september of this year that a number of pow-wows involving close to 5,000 elders from numerous areas (riverside, los angeles, ventura and orange counties) took place to drum up financial support from the 800+ (not sure) congregations in those areas.
-
-
cha ching
CHA CHING$$$$
CHA CHING$$$$
I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY...
YOU AIN'T GETTIN' NO MORE OF MY BLING$$!!!!!
-
56
Adjustments In Understanding--2013/7/15/Watchtower!
by Atlantis inthis file is being passed around by jehovah's witnesses concerning adjustments in understanding the 2013/7/15/watchtower.
the first draft they prepared had a typing error, and nevada sent the draft back to the jws for correction.
they corrected the typing error and sent it back to nevada.
-
-
cha ching
YaddaYadda: Yes! Thank you! That is exactly how my brain feels!
Remember the anti-drug campaign picture with an egg in the frying pan?
"This is my brain, this is my brain on WT"
-
56
Adjustments In Understanding--2013/7/15/Watchtower!
by Atlantis inthis file is being passed around by jehovah's witnesses concerning adjustments in understanding the 2013/7/15/watchtower.
the first draft they prepared had a typing error, and nevada sent the draft back to the jws for correction.
they corrected the typing error and sent it back to nevada.
-
-
cha ching
***
The April 8 Awake of 1972 p.32 under the heading: YourChildrenCanLearnFromtheGreatTeacher said:
"Children listened with fascination to the things taught them by Jesus Christ because he was able to make things simple and easily understood."
There is no way in HelllOOOooooo that I would want to have to explain this moronic stupidity to my children.
It makes MY brain hurt.....
On the other hand, it pretty well shows "that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, 2 by the hypocrisy of men who speak lies," (Col 4:1, 2)
And, as Paul said in Acts 20:29 "I know that after my going away oppressive wolveswill enter in among YOU and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and from among YOU yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves."
-
24
Questions from Readers ... In light of the new understanding of the Faithful and Discreet Slave, is it appropriate to refer to C.T. Russell as Brother Russell?
by mindnumbed inin light of the new understanding of the faithful and discreet slave, is it appropriate to refer to c.t.
russell as brother russell?.
in the past, some well meaning ones took it upon themselves to refer to c.t.
-
-
cha ching
The WTBTS "Out of Darkness" DVD proudly displays The Finished Mystery book (from Russell's era) with a winged sun disc on it.
2,600 times "Russell's" name appears in the 2006 DVD.
People fondly remember "The Photo Drama of Creation"... as a great thing that saved people, put them on a new road, and a whole bunch of other nebulous comments, and they don't even know what was on that thing! It was weird! Have you looked at ALL the slides? I have.
Try saying anything that is doubtful/ disparaging about Russell (I said "Why would God choose Russell who believed in pyramids?") and even tho he is now "not part of the FDS" they will still be mad at you for inferring anything even "true" about him.
-
24
Questions from Readers ... In light of the new understanding of the Faithful and Discreet Slave, is it appropriate to refer to C.T. Russell as Brother Russell?
by mindnumbed inin light of the new understanding of the faithful and discreet slave, is it appropriate to refer to c.t.
russell as brother russell?.
in the past, some well meaning ones took it upon themselves to refer to c.t.
-
-
cha ching
A few months ago, because I read some ofthe crazy beep stuff CT wrote in his books:
*pyramidology, *dates for Christ's invisible presence *the prophetic interpretation of how the Hoboken terminal figures into proving these books of theirs were guided by Russell from heaven...... (I cried when I read the “Hoboken terminal” explanation, I saw how numbers were just manipulated and squished, and arranged, and used as a matter of convenience. Read for yourself…..)
The Finished Mystery, page 230
(While explaining the meaning/ interpretation/ “expectation” re: what the “winepress” in Rev 14:20 meant)
“By the space of a thousand and {six} TWO hundred furlongs – This can not be interpreted to refer to the 2100 mile battle line of the world war. A furlong, or stadium, is not a mile and this is without the city whereas the battle line is within the city. See Rotherham’s translation.
A stadium is 606 ¾ English ft.; 1200 stadii are …….. mi., 137.9
The mileage from the Scranton to Hoboken Terminal is shown in time tables as 143.8 and this is the mileage charged to passengers, but in 1911, at an expense of $12,000,000 the Lackawanna Railroad completed it’s famous cut-off, saving11miles of the distance. From the day the cut-off was completed, the trainmen have been allowed 11 miles less than the time table shows,
or a net distance of ….. 132.8
Hoboken Ferry to Barclay StreetFerry, New York is ………..….2.0
Barclay Street Ferry to Fulton Ferry, NY is 4,800 feet or…... 0.9
Fulton Ferry, NY to Fulton Ferry, Brooklyn, is 2,000 feet …..0.4
Fulton Ferry, Brooklyn to Bethel is 1,485 feet or, ……………....0.3
Shortest distance where the winepress was trodden by the Feet Members of the Lord, Whose guidance and help alone made this volume possible (John 6:60, 61; Matt 20:11) … . Miles…. 137.9”
I told my sister they were going to have to get rid of "Russell" and would change their history AGAIN...
She was shocked! upset! How could I say such a thing!
Was I a prophet? No, I simply saw a pattern.
If something doesn’t fit, doesn’t work, and now contradicts, then ….. just shuffle the numbers…. Shuffle the info….. shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, then ask everyone to clap.
Witnesses clap whenever they are asked to. Say “Jump,”…. They ask “How high?”
Psalm 146:3) 3 Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.
These people, in the 1900’s, put their trust in the “faithful slave……” Witnesses today are asked to do the same.
Where are they? What does the Bible say?
(Psalm 146:4) . . .His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; In that day his thoughts do perish.
Do…. Not…. Put…. Your…. Trust…. In…. Men……
-
-
-
cha ching
This..... makes.... my..... head..... spin........
I am soooooooooooooooooooooo glad I am not there trying to understand this...
It is C R A Z Y!!!
-
34
Can you list watchtower articles that claim anything from the 'faithful slave' should be taken as from jehovah himself?
by EndofMysteries injust a few wts that put to the effect anything from them should be taken as from jehovah himself and also with elders or being disfellowshipped, that it means jehovah himself is angry with them, that's it's punishment from him.
.
-
-
cha ching
This is exactly their methodology. Exactly right Data Dog!
Amazing how we are all having the same exact thoughts! and feelings!
"TRUTH" !!!! Sickening to hear the word.
Can you speak it? NO!
Hear it? NO! You will be killed if you even desire it!
Thank you so much Leolaia for all of your boiling it down, sorting their contortions out, and THEN, unlike the WT, giving references.
Thank all of you for your references, quotes, links. It takes so much time, but I want you to know that all of the hard work done by all of the people, friends from even years ago ARE appreciated by people like my family & I years later.
Thank you!